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i believed in you, lance armstrong. i shelled out a dollar for a rubber bracelet that i have somewhere in my house for you. i did it for you. and when i think of the fact that i spent a dol -- well, i think we all owe cancer an apology. >> welcome back to "morning joe." 6:38 here on the east coast. time for a little sports where oprah winfrey has confirmed that lance armstrong indeed admitted to doping during her 2 1/2-hour interview with him conducted on monday. it airs tomorrow on the own network. but according to the world anti-doping agency, armstrong's couch confession to oprah isn't going to be enough to get his lifetime ban lifted. armstrong will have to testify according to them to his cheating under oath if he hopes to compete in the future. significant legal fallout may be on the way for armstrong. espn reporting the justice department is ready to join former teammate floyd landis's lawsuit that accuses armstrong of defrauding the u.s. postal service. the postal service spent about $30 million sponsoring armst
i believed in you, lance armstrong. i shelled out a dollar for a rubber bracelet that i have somewhere in my house for you. i did it for you. and when i think of the fact that i spent a dol -- well, i think we all owe cancer an apology. >> welcome back to "morning joe." 6:38 here on the east coast. time for a little sports where oprah winfrey has confirmed that lance armstrong indeed admitted to doping during her 2 1/2-hour interview with him conducted on monday. it airs...
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floyd landis who came up and accused lance armstrong of doping, lance armstrong savage that guy and tried to tear him to bits. going to try to reconcile with him and go see him and apologize. he's on this long apology tour. wise he doing it? we know not because he knows it's the right thing to do. >> i don't know. i think the walls closed and everyone knew. this huge report came out in october, 1,000 pages from the u.s. anti-doping association that laid out the case with everybody he ever performed with. >> what does he do to salvage the reputations of people he tried to and in effect ruined, destroyed their reputations, incomes, the young woman he w-- who worked for him for years, destroyed her. >> i don't know. >> come with me in central park. >> i can't look at you in those shorts. can you imagine. >> like miss america, going to use a glue. yesterday, did you read about that? miss america used butt glue to keep everything in. we suggested your colleague, al roker could use that. >> unfortunate incident. >> is that a condition that goes around on the "today" show. you're okay? >> shorts
floyd landis who came up and accused lance armstrong of doping, lance armstrong savage that guy and tried to tear him to bits. going to try to reconcile with him and go see him and apologize. he's on this long apology tour. wise he doing it? we know not because he knows it's the right thing to do. >> i don't know. i think the walls closed and everyone knew. this huge report came out in october, 1,000 pages from the u.s. anti-doping association that laid out the case with everybody he ever...
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. >> lance armstrong. >> lance armstrong. there's a lot of controversy. just controversy of cross the board. >> you put a-rod, and lance together and people trust sports less. >> so much less. >> they look at you and they lie to you for so long. >> let me ask you a question, dave, and i don't mean to pick on the nfl but let's pick on nfl. because from my view sitting, reading the sports pages religiously every day for years the national football league has been treated by too many sports writers in my view as if they were a nuclear power. i mean treated with such reverence. if you look at the nfl fine we have the concussions, we have the aaron hernandez stuff. we have the concussion settlement which was outrageous that they agreed to settle for that. that's all in my view. but you also have the most popular game in united states of america with a tissue thin drug policy unlike baseball. >> that's absolutely correct. it's a sport where i think the fans themselves have really come to peace with the fact that they don't care how the sausages are made as long
. >> lance armstrong. >> lance armstrong. there's a lot of controversy. just controversy of cross the board. >> you put a-rod, and lance together and people trust sports less. >> so much less. >> they look at you and they lie to you for so long. >> let me ask you a question, dave, and i don't mean to pick on the nfl but let's pick on nfl. because from my view sitting, reading the sports pages religiously every day for years the national football league has...
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i mean, look, lance armstrong's not the first person who lied to me. it's part of the brief. that's what i do for a living is get lied to. but the bigger thing for me because i realized i had become part of the promotional apparatus. i was part of the cover-up, and that's where i really got angry. >> he used you. >> he did. >> he used a lot of people. >> you weren't alone. >> he did use a lot of people. >> i wasn't alone. >> you talked to him after, obviously, he talks to you about it. >> i told him -- >> how is he now? how does he -- looking at this file video of him with all this money and excitement and chaos around him, up on stage and i think one of his wives or girlfriends crying as he's speaking. and all of it, all of it, all of it is a lie. >> well, i think that what's interesting about him is he still is just going forward. i think he wants to be considered a great athlete, and we can say that a lot of the cyclists around, the top cyclists were riding but he hasn't reckoned with the damage he's done with his lie. >> he destroyed cycling in some respects. right? to be
i mean, look, lance armstrong's not the first person who lied to me. it's part of the brief. that's what i do for a living is get lied to. but the bigger thing for me because i realized i had become part of the promotional apparatus. i was part of the cover-up, and that's where i really got angry. >> he used you. >> he did. >> he used a lot of people. >> you weren't alone. >> he did use a lot of people. >> i wasn't alone. >> you talked to him after,...
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i mean, this is where this strange intersection with lance armstrong. if there's one thing we learned, the sooner we come out with the real truth and the sooner manti te'o, whatever the truth is, comes out with the whole truth, the less worse -- i'm not going to say better -- the less worse it is for him, and i think that's the key. don't we learn anything from what we watch? the second thing is honestly as a journalist, it's on us. we did a terrible job here. >> "sports illustrated." >> incredible outlets did not vet the story, and we look terrible. >> so tom, let me ask you. the heavy implication of the story is that manti te'o was involved in this, and it was at least in part a creation of his own. but the proof is that a friend of this guy, tuiasosopo who we believe was behind it said, quote, he was 80% sure that te'o is in on it. is deadspin ready to say that manti te'o was in on this and created this and that he was not a victim of a hoax? >> that was in the context of talking to friends and family and just getting their -- you know, as honest a t
i mean, this is where this strange intersection with lance armstrong. if there's one thing we learned, the sooner we come out with the real truth and the sooner manti te'o, whatever the truth is, comes out with the whole truth, the less worse -- i'm not going to say better -- the less worse it is for him, and i think that's the key. don't we learn anything from what we watch? the second thing is honestly as a journalist, it's on us. we did a terrible job here. >> "sports...
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that's quite a bit, ryan. >> same thing with lance armstrong. it's arrogance is what it is. >>> still ahead this hour, author, columnist tom friedman will join our conversation. >>> and up next, marc morial will talk about the group's annual conference plus the growing number of musicians who are now boycotting florida over the state's controversial stand your ground law. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. want to save on electricity? don't use it. live like they did long ago. or just turn off the lights when you leave a room. you can conserve energy wisely. the more you know. wait a sec! i found our colors. we've made a decision. great, let's go get you set up... you need brushes... you should check out our workshops... push your color boundaries while staying well within your budget walls. i want to paint something else. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. refresh your home inside or out with behr premium plus ultra. interior flat starts at $31.98 a gallon. could lose tens of thousands of dollars on the
that's quite a bit, ryan. >> same thing with lance armstrong. it's arrogance is what it is. >>> still ahead this hour, author, columnist tom friedman will join our conversation. >>> and up next, marc morial will talk about the group's annual conference plus the growing number of musicians who are now boycotting florida over the state's controversial stand your ground law. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. want to save on electricity? don't use...
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. >> what about lance armstrong, talking about -- why doesn't he go away? >> i'm wondering watching the tour de france, didn't lance armstrong say no one could win the tour de france unless they were doping. which makes you wonder how many of them -- running over that dog -- >> i mean you ever go on a 20-mile bike ride or 10, imagine going on 100. >> ever do spinning. i have to do it -- >> well, i choose not to -- >> spinning? >> yeah. >> you do spinning? >> my wife does spinning, man. it's a tough -- it's tougher than you think. >> always my wife. >> introduce spinning must mean you're doing it. >> i've done it once with my wife. my wife wants me to do these things, i try them. >> spinning, getting yelled at for a half hour. >> it was pretty -- >> i'm doing spinning. >> how about this. >> you might not get up. >> i'm telling you -- >> that was nice to you, introducing you. why do you do this? >> okay. enough spinning. >> okay. >> enough cycling, the must-read opinion pages. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. and didn't know where to start.
. >> what about lance armstrong, talking about -- why doesn't he go away? >> i'm wondering watching the tour de france, didn't lance armstrong say no one could win the tour de france unless they were doping. which makes you wonder how many of them -- running over that dog -- >> i mean you ever go on a 20-mile bike ride or 10, imagine going on 100. >> ever do spinning. i have to do it -- >> well, i choose not to -- >> spinning? >> yeah. >> you do...
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i think while there -- whether it's lance armstrong, the obama care thing, lots of things to point to, if things on capitol hill started to function in a way where people could say stuff is getting done and they're addressing the nation's problems, i think it might make a big difference in the kinds of things you're talking about. >> i think even now as the year ends in some way people are feeling a little bit of that. conversations over the past week and people say look, you know, there's a sign that some thing is happening in washington. just that little bit of functionality makes people feel better. perhaps there is a way to get around the sharp end. maybe there is. >> we're two weeks from 2014. that's the bright side, i guess, right? >> it is. >> adam geller, thank you so much. coming up one of the senate's top-ranking democrats, chuck schumer joins the conversation. that's ahead on "morning joe." [ male announcer ] this is jim, a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial fibrillation -- an irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. that puts jim at a gr
i think while there -- whether it's lance armstrong, the obama care thing, lots of things to point to, if things on capitol hill started to function in a way where people could say stuff is getting done and they're addressing the nation's problems, i think it might make a big difference in the kinds of things you're talking about. >> i think even now as the year ends in some way people are feeling a little bit of that. conversations over the past week and people say look, you know,...
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lance armstrong having to pay up maybe. >> yeah, he might have to pay the piper or repay the postal service at least. the u.s. justice department officially filed a lawsuit against the disgraced cyclist and his company, tail wind sports. it says armstrong was quote unjustly enriched while cheating. the u.s. postal service spent 40 million a year to sponsor the team. i think he got about 17 million. the department of justice seeking triple damages in this case. it will be assessed by the jury, but they have to prove not only that the postal service was defrauded, but that it was somehow damaged. armstrong has said the postal service profited from it. >> so, this morning, durable goods down 5.7% in march. what does that mean? >> that's a big drop. it's a volatile number and sometimes, they talk about seasonalties. we're trying to figure out what degree we've slowed down. >> thank you. tomorrow, we're going to sit down with stanley mcchrystal and later, he'll join us for our average series. if you have any questions for the top commander of american forces in afghanistan, tweet them. we'll use
lance armstrong having to pay up maybe. >> yeah, he might have to pay the piper or repay the postal service at least. the u.s. justice department officially filed a lawsuit against the disgraced cyclist and his company, tail wind sports. it says armstrong was quote unjustly enriched while cheating. the u.s. postal service spent 40 million a year to sponsor the team. i think he got about 17 million. the department of justice seeking triple damages in this case. it will be assessed by the...
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following the doping scandal that stripped lance armstrong of his seven tour de france titles, nike will stop promoting live strong products at the end of the year. nike helped the company raise 100 million dollars mainly with the sale of those popular yellow bracelets. >> "the washington post" a new study from the pew research center show that 40% of american households are earning more than than their husband pen it's driven by higher education rate and also women in the workplace. >> obviously more women are graduating than ever before than men and with better grades but that is besides the point. it's because a lot of men are being phased out of the work force and women are filling in the spots at less pay so they may be making more than their counterparts at home but they are not at work. so there's still a lot of problems here. >> willie and i just don't think that is right. >> i know. >> mike is offended as well. rattner has made billions off this trend so he will not get in on it. >> look at rattner. >> willie, the daily news today, anthony weiner, right here, daily news leading
following the doping scandal that stripped lance armstrong of his seven tour de france titles, nike will stop promoting live strong products at the end of the year. nike helped the company raise 100 million dollars mainly with the sale of those popular yellow bracelets. >> "the washington post" a new study from the pew research center show that 40% of american households are earning more than than their husband pen it's driven by higher education rate and also women in the...
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look at lance armstrong. if armstrong, god forbid, had died ten years ago, might be named differently. >> we talked about sports before, and we've talked about it, so many of these sports guys, you don't want to call them sports journalists, they kiss up to 18, 19, 20-year-old kids. >> the same thing with tiger woods. a lot of people could have asked a lot of questions, but he was the only game in golf in town for 10, 15 years. to go up against tiger woods was to lose access to tiger woods, and it was a story that everybody could talk about all the time. so i think there's a resistance -- and not everybody, but in some quarters, they don't want to shoot down the great story. >> and you don't know sometimes where the kardashians end and the nba begins in sports journalism. unfortunately what this hides for us is there are huge stories that profound on the country and don't get discussed. that's really what the book is about. like in the last five years, massive economic crisis in the country reflected itself i
look at lance armstrong. if armstrong, god forbid, had died ten years ago, might be named differently. >> we talked about sports before, and we've talked about it, so many of these sports guys, you don't want to call them sports journalists, they kiss up to 18, 19, 20-year-old kids. >> the same thing with tiger woods. a lot of people could have asked a lot of questions, but he was the only game in golf in town for 10, 15 years. to go up against tiger woods was to lose access to...
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. >> i can't stand -- he will go down as the most loathed, other than lance armstrong, in sports history. this guy is so delusional, so detached, and any yankee fan that cheers this guy at this point -- >> i don't think many are cheering him, but isn't the whole sport now maligned, because it's not just a-rod. all these guys are doing. >> i also say it's the same thing. and brian, you cover wall street. what percentage of guys, if you said to them, you're traders. you can take a pill and maybe not be caught and make 25% more this year. i think there's a cheating culture in a lot of places. >> people cheat because they -- >> it's a shortcut culture. >> they want to make the money. >> every team in baseball have someone on it that's doing steroids? >> first of all, steroids are not -- hgh has been part of the baseball culture since they started. there's always someone looking for an edge and who will bend or break the rules to do that. i think that's a fact of pro sports in america. >> the more money there is, the more incentive there is. >> that's the difference between now and 60 years.
. >> i can't stand -- he will go down as the most loathed, other than lance armstrong, in sports history. this guy is so delusional, so detached, and any yankee fan that cheers this guy at this point -- >> i don't think many are cheering him, but isn't the whole sport now maligned, because it's not just a-rod. all these guys are doing. >> i also say it's the same thing. and brian, you cover wall street. what percentage of guys, if you said to them, you're traders. you can take...
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lance armstrong, how would you advise them? >> full disclosure, i did talk to his lawyers and i thought he did a good job on oprah beginning, but he didn't finish. and finish is all the facts. do a geraldine ferrara, everything. and then make it a teaching moment. he knows everything about doping. nobody is more of an expert about doping than he -- he should be a teacher and get rid of this and clean it out and he could be a leader in that movement. he's never going to be able to be over it. he's always going to be charged with it, but he could do -- >> but he's still trying to play it. he didn't apologize to the people whose lives he tried to destroy for killing the truth. when oprah asked why people should forgive him, he said, because i deserve it. i mean, wrong, wrong, wrong. >> he started it with oprah. i don't think he finished it. i wish he had. i still think he can finish it. he can still turn something bad into good if he teaches and clean this thing up. seth davis is writing the book too. some day he'll be on "morning
lance armstrong, how would you advise them? >> full disclosure, i did talk to his lawyers and i thought he did a good job on oprah beginning, but he didn't finish. and finish is all the facts. do a geraldine ferrara, everything. and then make it a teaching moment. he knows everything about doping. nobody is more of an expert about doping than he -- he should be a teacher and get rid of this and clean it out and he could be a leader in that movement. he's never going to be able to be over...
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. >> so, bradley -- >> real quick, on the question of rumors, the lance armstrong movie, yes or no, bradley? >> no. i mean, nothing going on. >> a rumor. there you go. bradley, we want to thank you for being with us. >> no more "hangover." no more "wedding crashers." >> more importantly and i do mean this, personally there are people very close to me that have been deeply touched by your movie, and i know mika knows people. >> sure. >> everybody that has gone to see it. this is such an important movie and we thank you so much. >> thank you. >> for doing it and for coming here talking about it. >> thanks, guys, thanks for having me. >> great, great job. bradley cooper, thank you. "silver linings playbook" is now in theaters. go see it. it is worth it. you are watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why s
. >> so, bradley -- >> real quick, on the question of rumors, the lance armstrong movie, yes or no, bradley? >> no. i mean, nothing going on. >> a rumor. there you go. bradley, we want to thank you for being with us. >> no more "hangover." no more "wedding crashers." >> more importantly and i do mean this, personally there are people very close to me that have been deeply touched by your movie, and i know mika knows people. >> sure....
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>> i feel like some of the lance armstrong supporters. i was saying it could be, makes sense and then just like a shot to the gut. for my sons, 18 and 19, both big brewer fans, a lot of fans across america, these guys let us down. >> they really did. >> with ryan braun, bad for the juice. that's what matters to me. >> that's what matters to you. >> the good news, so many baseball players, you have your lot to pick from. >> hank green burg, ryan braun -- >> of course you have sandy, but you know. >> sad part, we were talking to tina about heroes, a guy like ryan braun was a quiet, soft spoken guy, as a sports figure, hot shots you don't really want your kids to gravitate towards but this was a nice, quiet, decent guy. >> every single person, every iconic figure, seems to bite the dust. who do kids admire? >> so there are different ways to handle it. everybody makes mistakes, terrible mistakes. but i'm -- i have taken my boys up to see the red sox and yankees play and, of course, everybody is booing a-rod but there's andy pettitte on the mo
>> i feel like some of the lance armstrong supporters. i was saying it could be, makes sense and then just like a shot to the gut. for my sons, 18 and 19, both big brewer fans, a lot of fans across america, these guys let us down. >> they really did. >> with ryan braun, bad for the juice. that's what matters to me. >> that's what matters to you. >> the good news, so many baseball players, you have your lot to pick from. >> hank green burg, ryan braun --...